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Of course if we shifted the lines underground the weather problems would be substantially reduced. And this is the plan that's currently being proposed - thanks to an anonymous contributer for this link. I guess we'd want to see a bit more detail, and there'd sure be a few obstacles along the way, but this is the sort of thinking we need. Forget your poxy billion or so a year on bits and pieces, let's do some serious investment in 21st century public transport solutions. Just install a few hundred more speed cameras and you'll have it funded in a jiffy, Bracksie!
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In honour of my not commuting today, I see they've cancelled my 07:14!
That's actually a Northern Ireland link you provided.
The problem in England, Scotland and Wales (i.e. National Rail) the trains take their power from a third rail (no overhead) this third rail gets coated and train is unable to get power.
It's a valid problem facing a railway, like many of the problems encountered by Connex.
the tube runs off a third rail, but National Rail trains run off overhead power lines just like here.
If the tunnel plan went ahead, Connex would have to upgrade the Kmart walkie talkies they give to drivers now to communicate!
Seriously though, it sounds like a very nice bit of forward thinking. It would eliminate level crossings and so ease traffic snarls, and free up valuable land for development. You can't tell me that wouldn't go a long way towards covering the construction costs. Safety would need to be a huge consideration and given the governments lack of ability to manage quality and tenders, it would need to be closely watched.
sam
Please see below regarding National Rail. You'll find that the tube actually uses a current run through the existing two rails, one negative, one positive.
"Britain is the only country in the world with extensive 3rd rail electrification of main railways. The reason for this was because back in the early part of this century, Southern Railways, who owned the railways in the south east of england launched a program to get rid of the steam engines. They decided to electrify all their lines. Now of course back in those days no one had established the overhead wires system, the only example was the London Underground which used electicity carrying rails so Southern adopted that idea. So today we have third rail electric systems running at 750 V. "
There are some overhead lines but the majority are third rail or diesel services. The Eurostar actually uses third rail electricity in the UK and then raises a pantograph to the overhead power when it reaches mainland Europe.
In regards to the tunnel it is an idea floated by public companies, none of which has anything to do with public transport so it will be interesting to see if the government goes for it or not.
sam, yes and they get theyre vehicles from a toy shop.
anonymous_2, true. Trams are more effected by leaves on the track and wet weather.
Anonymous said...
That's actually a Northern Ireland link you provided.
Last time I checked, the Rebublicans lost the battle for a united Ireland about 80 years ago and the six counties have been claimed as British ever since. That's not a political debate to pursue in here though, I don't think!
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1078/Sad+But+True
They should have them outside all train stations.
:)
http://www.funnyjunk.com/
funny_pictures/1078/Sad+But
(blogger doesn't like links)
Chris, links are fine, click here for your link.
On the train last night, for the 1st time... well ever, I saw someone hold the train doors open. I was waiting for this "ripple effect" of the train being late, wasn't to be. Can't say I was surprised, as that connex excuse was a bit hard to believe!
Im clapping on the inside for you.
oh, look out schools out...
what, no homework to do? Maybe some english?
It wasn't meant as a political debate.
I mentioned that it was a Northern Ireland link as they have the smallest railway in the UK and are seperate to National Rail that operate the passenger railways in England, Scotland and Wales.
Surely you don't actually think that a NI link represents the "excuse that the British commuters have to face every autumn!"
That's like saying the Sandringham line represents the Connex network.
Last anon - the point of the link was that it gave one of the best explanations I've seen on why "leaves on the line" causes so much disruption to the British trains during autumn. As a British railway organisation it fit the criteria and had a nice easy to understand explanation.
So your analogy is way off, it's simply an explanation of the problem, not a representation of the entire British rail system!
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