Wednesday, April 05, 2006

Wed 5 April - Keeping doors clear...

OK Chris/The Met, this won't happen too often, but today I agree with you... to a point.

I'm on the 07:29 as I couldn't make the 07:14 this morning. It's very crowded and there's somebody with a bike blocking half the doorway and also the entrance to the seating area. People try to squeeze past with no attempt by the cyclist to move out of the way.

Frankly, as someone who takes a bike now and again on the train, I'm amazed how often some cyclists make no effort to minimise inconvenience to their fellow passengers. If you're going to take your bike on the train, why would you try to jam into a crowded carriage during peak times? These are the people who do cause delays and frustration for passengers.

We pull into Flinders Street about four minutes late.

We're about three minutes late on the 18:35, seems it's all our fault according to the MX newspaper. Apparently it's all those people holding doors and blocking doorways again. I see Andrew Cassidy comments that this is not the major issue, so it appears even senior Connex people don't agree with the author of this piece, nor with Chris/The Met.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure there is a rule stating you can't take bikes on trains during peak hours (7-9am and 4-6pm). I read it in a Metlink publication - I wish I could remember which one.

05 April, 2006 10:27  
Anonymous Andrew said...

Yeah I am pretty sure that in the case. But could be wrong.

Nothing worse than an idiot with a bicycle in a peak hour train esp in the one after a cancelled train.

05 April, 2006 15:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have seen everything, from bikes to huge dogs on peak hour on the usually overcrowded pakenham line.
And for those wo don't use the Pakenham line: The train is usually packed at Flagstaff with people trying to get on along the way to South Yarra before they only stop at "major" stations up to Dandenong. Only them there is some relief and a chance for a seat as most of the passengers get off at Hallam, Narre Warren and Berwick.
On this line it becomes even a challenge to get on board without a bike, pram or dog but Mr Batchelor seems not to be willing to upgrade the line.

05 April, 2006 16:05  
Blogger Connex Whinger said...

The trouble is, we shouldn't need these rules. People should understand that if you're going to take your bike on the train then you should consider other passengers when doing so. Seems so blindingly obvious to me!

05 April, 2006 20:03  
Anonymous Mrs CW said...

How about designating one carriage for bikes, such as the last carriage?

Then any "pedestrian" passengers would know they were taking their chances getting in that one.

Mrs CW
who clearly neglected to bake a cake yesterday; sorry Mr CW! xxx

05 April, 2006 21:33  
Anonymous sam said...

Chris - do you know anyone that writes for MX?
Yesterdays front page article was about Connex figures shoiwng that 20% of delays are caused by passengers, backed up by some comments from an anon. driver. The Connex spokesperson was very diplomatic and said that they would never blame customers for the delays. Perhaps it would be a good thing for the MX to write up a commuter courtesy guide in that middle section that they normally fill with some rubbish? With such a big jump in patronage, there may be a lot of new commuters who aren't used to travelling regularly .
(I know, you would think it was common sense, but perhaps people need a friendly reminder?)


06 April, 2006 11:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

got to


Both are articles of extreme importance in relation to this matter.
I encourage all to do so, if you want to bring about change.

06 April, 2006 18:41  
Blogger The Met said...

anon; 10:27
Yes there is something about avoiding peak time when travelling with bikes.
Perhaps a bike locker another option.

CW; 8.03
Yes quite true, as long with many other things.

mrs CW,
bike take up around about standing space for about 3 or 4 people. More bikes, less space obviously.

There's space at the rear of EACH drivers cabin, for space for disable and elderly (also more standing space) I suppose you could utilise it.


of course 'Connex' can't say that, that would be rude, they could loose more customers.

What was the first comment in this POST? Not a 'passengers' fault???!

And, just because it's says it in a paper, doesn't exactly mean it's true. You should now that, and im not that stupid.

AS IVE STATED elsehwere (excuse the capitals) one person cannot exactly represent an entire company of many thousands of people.

"Facts are meaningless and can be used to prove any point - 60 percent of people know that"

I haven't read it's so i can't say much.

Now, to my general other point, perhaps COnnex, could make another 'travel ad'...

First there were those 'catchy; tunes,
now catchy anagrams...
hope it's:

Catchy ways to catch a train!

06 April, 2006 20:10  
Blogger TerryC said...

Had to avoid bikes twice so far this week on the 8.02 Windsor. One appeared unattended and considered throwing it of as it hsa bloking the door making hard to get in or out.

Also saw the MX article. Not sure how connex explain train sitting in the loop for several minutes. Must be passengers opening the doors for fresh air in between stations. Althougth I must admit the daily sauna is helping me loss weight that I think of catching the train in a towel.

06 April, 2006 21:29  
Blogger Connex Whinger said...

Re bikes on trains, see the link in the blog entry for 7 April.

"Bicycles and surfboards may be carried on train passenger services free of charge at all times, provided that the comfort of other passengers is not affected".

07 April, 2006 08:05  
Blogger Daniel Bowen said...

Sam, MX covered PT etiquette a couple of years ago - see here. Maybe it's time to re-visit it?

07 April, 2006 11:17  
Anonymous sam said...

Daniel - yes that's exactly what I had envisaged, even in the same section. I say give it another run in a new format. Need to add the bike debate that is being had here.


07 April, 2006 14:23  

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